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  Trinity Statements in the Dead Sea Scrolls

  by Sea Breeze in

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  dr. ken johnson has identified several statements in the dead sea scrolls that predict that god would visit the earth as a man... as the messiah.

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljrfvytjhve&ab_channel=kenjohnson%28biblefacts%29 .

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  I have read most of this thread and don't think I missed it but if I did apologies. When discussing the trinity doctrine with people as an academic exercise, especially JW's, my question was always well what about the Holy Spirit? It seems most of the wrangling always involves Jesus and his nature with respect to God and so forth.

  The Holy Spirit is if I remember my JW teaching correctly God's active spirit. It is a part of God, emanates from God yet has the hallmarks of personhood, independent action, emotion, appearance in a different form, etc. I would ask, well, it appears that you have no trouble with 2/3 of the trinity concept, why would it be such a leap to see Jesus in the same fashion? I never really saw that much difference between the two.
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  A Coin With a Remarkable History

  by cofty in

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  over the years i have shared a few examples of objects i have found while metal detecting near my home in northumberland in ne england.

  i live in a rural estate that was the site of a medieval village with a manor house and defensive tower.

  many of the things i find illustrate the amazing history of the location.

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  Good story and impressive bit of historical detective work. Coins travel that's for sure. An uncle of mine brought back Roman coins he picked up in France while serving there in WWII. I was fascinated by them as a child and had a difficult time really grasping that they were minted thousands of years ago and ended up in a cigar box in a small town in America.
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  Why is the Faithful Slave Now Admitting Ignorance?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  dbm writes on the question: will sodomites get a resurrection?.

  i guess it depends the date that you asked this question.

  here is a screenshot from a video which gives an overview of the changes (new light) on this question:.

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  Because you can only be dogmatic and wrong for so long until you paint yourself into a corner.

  When being beaten about the head and neck with facts and examples of your either failed predictions or doctrinal flip flops its time to capitulate and admit your ignorance. The longer you avoid that the more foolish you appear and any credibility you hope to salvage is gone.
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  Current light on will die at Armageddon?

  by Teddnzo in

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  my wife zoe and i often talk about her grandmother who has never been a jw but is an excellent christian by other opinions.

  she has led such a good life always kind and tried to follow jesus example.

  before the agm new light my wife often thought according to current light is that as long as she dies before armageddon she will be resurrected.

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  I once saw a bumper sticker that said "Armadillos not Armageddon," that sums up my position.
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  Pornography in the Marriage

  by LostintheFog1999 in

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  2. bible

  the magazine that they are studying in the congregation this month has an article at the back about how pornography in a marriage could damage the relationship.. there's one piece of advice that sounds rather scary, the wt suggests that the couple should "consider asking an elder with whom you are both comfortable to sit in and guide your discussions for a time.".

  how many of you would want an elder present in your home while you and your partner discussed your personal sexual cravings and the type of porn videos being watched?.

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  Am I to understand then that the WTBS is ok with porn as long as its not damaging to the marriage? Wow, that's pretty enlightened thinking for that bunch.

  Makes sense though considering they have equity holdings in PornHub.
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  What's next?

  by lastmanstanding in

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  what's next for the world?

  a year ago i edited a map of the world to include some big arrows to tell the story of what is to come.

  and i shared that map with various friends.

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  Makes me think of a line from a Stephen King novella "Queer weather. Coupled with the grueling winter we had come through and the late spring, some people had dragged out that old chestnut about the long-range results of the fifties A-bomb tests again. That, and of course, the end of the world. The oldest chestnut of them all."
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  Convention Blast

  by Zilgee in

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  jw convention blast in kerala india.

  one died.

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  These kinds of acts are beyond the pale. The people who commit atrocities like this forfeit all claim of humanity.
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  Noah + new understanding

  by dothemath in

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  so they mentioned noah couldn’t have preached to all the population back before the flood.

  do you think they might start using common sense regarding not being able to get every animal type on the ark from the whole world?.

  maybe the poor sloth from south america didn’t have to crawl all the way?

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  Oh the poor fundamentalists, even most of the mainstream churches view the first eleven chapters of Genesis as creation for dummies rather than historical narrative.

  As I mentioned in another thread the flood account was one of the first issues I had with the theology I was being indoctrinated with as a child. Too many things about that story made no sense even to a middle school aged mind.

  If you are going to argue for the existence of God, the flood account is not the hill to plant your flag on, or young earth, or any of the other stories in Genesis.
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  My conclusion on the matter

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  2. beliefs

  after being brought up a jw, going to mts, bethel, pioneer school multiple times, serving in foreign assignments and having been an elder for decades my conclusion is that i am now pima, physically in mentally agnostic.. agnostic means you think it can’t be proven either way creation or evolution.

  i do tend to lean towards evolution but creation at the very start because you can’t get life from dead matter.

  but i’m open to the possibility of chance theory at the origin of it all.

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  As a side note ExBethel, you may want to watch some of the debates between John Lennox and Richard Dawkins, not just for content but as a nice example of how civilized discourse and debate is done. Their debates are definitely germane to the topic(s) of this thread.
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  My conclusion on the matter

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
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  after being brought up a jw, going to mts, bethel, pioneer school multiple times, serving in foreign assignments and having been an elder for decades my conclusion is that i am now pima, physically in mentally agnostic.. agnostic means you think it can’t be proven either way creation or evolution.

  i do tend to lean towards evolution but creation at the very start because you can’t get life from dead matter.

  but i’m open to the possibility of chance theory at the origin of it all.

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  Big Dog

  I have to agree with Cofty on this point. That's a membership in a club whose annual dues are far too high. You can find that sort of camaraderie and brotherhood in far more healthy environments. I've often felt that people that stay in when they are as you describe are more akin to someone displaying battered spouse syndrome. They have been abused for so long they begin to think they deserve it and can't imagine breaking away from their oppressor.